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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:56 am 
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Standard issue hard plastic stripping baskets require modifications in order to make them safe to use in the Pacific Surf Zone. Additionally-these mods can make these stripping aides more fun to use. I have modified a new LL Bean Stripping Basket based upon the experience gained after using the modified Orvis basket shown above. There is an article on the Orvis Basket mods posted on Fliflicker.com in their "Tactics" section. LINK- http://home.xroad.com/members/710/RL%20basket.htm

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The bottom of the LL Bean Stripping basket is flat and smooth. The seven (7) holes are the underside of the 7 cones inside the basket that help with line coil management. They do not provide drainage.

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LL Bean Basket Inside Bottom

LL Bean's basket has nearly 20 circular impressions on the inside floor of the basket which can be used as hole locators. These are 1/2" diameter and I marked a dot in the center of each one and then drilled them out with a 7/16 inch wood bit. Back up the work with some soft wood or rigid foam to get clean holes.

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Completed Drainage Hole Pattern in basket bottom. Also shown is Orange Stripping Cushion/Floatation foam on basket's rim.

The hole pattern shown above is what I feel will provide adequate drainage in heavy surf. After drilling-out the bottom, I placed a ring of 7/16 inch holes around the side wall too. These side wall holes are spaced on 3 inch centers with a 3/4 inch hole centered between each of those smaller holes. You can put fewer holes in your basket and then go fishing to see if you like the way it drains. I went through three (3) drilling upgrades on the Orvis basket project before finally getting it just right. Note: Adding holes in your basket will also reduce the weight noticably.

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The LL Bean basket comes with a plastic snap "Logo" buckle.

The LL Bean black nylon belt is soft and thin. I learned last time around that this type of belt is inadequate for heavy duty useage. It will wrinkle and scrunch-up on itself and not support the basket when wet & full of water. More importantly, the buckle is not suited for emergency egress. If you fall in a wave and get sucked out to sea in a rip, the first thing you need to do is jettison your basket. Have you ever struggled with those "pinch-style" buckles on your backpack? I have.

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Uncle Mike's Sidekick Belt Buckle from Michael's Of Oregon.

I now use an Uncle Mike's " Sidekick Gun Belt". It has a heavy duty "saftey belt " style, latching buckle-which is a quick release device. The ballistic nylon belt is just the right stiffness to support a stripping basket in the surf zone.

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Toothy Critter Tool

I carry a sheath and long nosed forceps on the belt and position them behind me so that they are out of the way until needed.

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Completed Basket Modifications Ready to Fish

I like to put a foam cushion on the rim of the stripping baskets. It provides relief from knuckle busting when stripping hard and fast. I use the cushion as a stop to feel the basket's position. Because I strip until my hand hits the foam, I can strip without looking. As I feel the foam bumper with my knuckles and back hand, then I know the stripped line has just gone into the bin.

Use a small size hollow Fun Noodle (Pool Noodle). Slit it straight along one side. Snap it over the basket's rim and trim to length. Drill a small hole through the basket wall just below the foam at each end. Then use a tie wrap to secure it. I used a strip of vinyl tape under the tie wrap to prevent it from cutting into the soft foam.

Additionally, the foam cushion provides bouyancy. If I had to cut-away, then the basket would float and be easier to recover. Otherwise-these baskets sink. Some time after a fly change-out, I hook the old fly under the foam rim to get it out of the way and to keep from putting a wet fly in back into the flybox with the dry ones. Lastly-it adds a high degree of visability to your person-which can be safer.

Notice that I have intentionally covered the rod cradle on the stripping side (I'm a righty and strip with my left hand). Since a stripping basket is normally worn low and off to one side (my left), the basket naturally tilts downwards. If a rod is place accross both cradles, chances are good that the rod tip will be slanting downwards and be in the sand. I need the bumper there for stripping anyway. So I place the reel in the basket and the rod through the notch in the opposite side of the basket and that seems to work better when I am dealing with gear or fishes.

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If you really get carried away with basket mods, you can add a rubber clip to hold a Boga Grip accross the front.

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....And if you have a Boga onboard-then you'll want to tether it on a retractor.

I don't plan on adding the Boga to the LL Bean basket. I tried it on the Orvis Basket. It sure came in handy pleanty of times when landing halibut and sharks, but the occasional tangles and flyline fouling outweighed the benefits of having the gripper positioned there. It can be done.

Rich Lewis

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 7:25 pm 
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Rich,
What is the address or url of Michael's in Oregon?
Eric


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 8:45 pm 
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Rich,

Thanks for the great info and design mods to the basket! I just ordered one tonite and can't wait to try it out..........

CF


The web address for Michael's of Oregon is:

http://www.uncle-mikes.com/ :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:36 am 
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Thanks men! Here is the direct link to the Sidekick belt.

http://www.uncle-mikes.com/adtemplate.asp?invky=9006828&catky=3407251&subcatky1=4548779&subcatky2=2000081

Rich

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:56 am 
Hey Rich,

Thanks for the epoxy tips at Garys site.

Anybody know where we can get this belt locally? The shipping is almost $7.00 from Mikes. I live in Santa barbara.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:03 pm 
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:?: Rich - I noticed that you fish a Redington NTi Q. What weight is it and how do you like the rod so far? I have a NTi 9wt that I use for bluefish and stripers whenever I go back east. I have looked at the quartz versions at some shops and noticed that they are a bit more robust and somewhat stiffer. Is this the case? How do they compare to the regular NTi's? Thnks, James


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:52 pm 
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James wrote:
:?: Rich - I noticed that you fish a Redington NTi Q. What weight is it and how do you like the rod so far? I have looked at the quartz versions at some shops and noticed that they are a bit more robust and somewhat stiffer. Is this the case? How do they compare to the regular NTi's? Thnks, James


James,
I like the straight NTi's quite a bit. I use a 200 grain head on an Nti 10 foot 7 wt and that is the most fun to use in the surf when the waves and rips are low. It is so light that it is a joy to cast. I used to have an Nti-Q 8 Wt ,4 piece and that was just about right for throwing a 300 grain head and it was not too clunky. I was told at the time that it was the best casting Nti-Q 8 wt . However I broke it landing a Shovel Nose -high sticking up on the beach. So I traded it in and was given the pictured Nti-Q 3 pc 8 Wt by the factory. I really like it and it also casts and handles well. These Q-Rods are a bit heavier and more robust than the NTi's. More damage tolerant of Clouser hits. I have used the 9 Wt Q in southern waters for bigger fish and that is a good piece of equipment too. A 7 WT Q would kill in the surf.

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Dave from SB wrote:
Hey Rich,

Thanks for the epoxy tips at Garys site.

Anybody know where we can get this belt locally? The shipping is almost $7.00 from Mikes. I live in Santa barbara.


Dave You are welcome.

On the Uncle Mike's Sidekick Belt-try Turner's. They can order them. Or this site (Natchez Shooting Supplies) can beat Uncle Mike's direct price:

http://www.natchezss.com/category.cfm?contentID=productList&category=14&brand=UM&mfgGroup=171&subgroup=2170&CFID=310719&CFTOKEN=25373739

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:03 am 
Rich,

I found the belt at a local gun shop. I ordered the LL Bean basket, it'll be here next week, on the water soon after. My home made basket lasted a year, it's fine but I want something that will contour the body and hopefully ride lower on the hip. Thanks for all your help.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:51 pm 
Rich, how are you finding the LL Bean basket now after some time in service, I only ask to see if there are any mod's you'd do differently as I have one on the way. In fact a few of us are waiting to get them, good news does slowly get to Australia :D


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Rich, how are you finding the LL Bean basket now after some time in service, I only ask to see if there are any mod's you'd do differently as I have one on the way. In fact a few of us are waiting to get them, good news does slowly get to Australia :D


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:49 pm 
Wet wrote:
Rich, how are you finding the LL Bean basket now after some time in service, I only ask to see if there are any mod's you'd do differently as I have one on the way. In fact a few of us are waiting to get them, good news does slowly get to Australia :D


It has worked-out well as shown. Less holes if you don't get too wet. More tie-wraps on the cushion if you fish a nasty shore break. Otherwise-it is good to go. Have fun this winter in the surf!
RL


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Rich, thanks for the great post. (Bump)

It convinced me to get the Bean basket (which I just rec'd today) and start doing the mods to it.

Any other suggestions?

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2-year old post gets revived 8)

Sorry did not get back to the others: But Friar-I'd say the Bean Basket is good as pictured. It works very nicely.

Updates? I have added a sheath to the belt, which is trapped between the basket and the buckle (that way it doesn't slide off when you unbuckle the basket). In the sheath is a pair of long, SS forceps.

Rich

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Wow, what a great how to on the stripping basket. Made mine last Saturday. I'm almost positive it's the coolest thing I've ever made. Thanks for the effort to post all that.


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